QUOTE:
"There is no there there."
Gertrude Stein (1874-1946)
American expatriate writer
Everybody's Autobiography (1937)
Speaking about Oakland, California
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COUNTERQUOTE:
"The trouble with Oakland is that when you get there, it's there."
Herb Caen (1916-1997)
American newspaper columnist
Op-ed in in Newsweek, October 23, 1989
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